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	**Until such time that a direct comparison between the film prints and an off-air audio recording can be done, it is currently unknown whether any footage is missing from these film prints. (It is known that the original telerecording of [[The Keys of Marinus]] part two was edited in this way prior to any overseas copies being made, a fact that was not realised until a comparison was made with an off-air audio recording.) [''Update'': During the mastering and restoration work for the DVD release of this story, no edits or missing segments were identified, so these "Cutting Copies" were 'uncut'!]		**Until such time that a direct comparison between the film prints and an off-air audio recording can be done, it is currently unknown whether any footage is missing from these film prints. (It is known that the original telerecording of [[The Keys of Marinus]] part two was edited in this way prior to any overseas copies being made, a fact that was not realised until a comparison was made with an off-air audio recording.) [''Update'': During the mastering and restoration work for the DVD release of this story, no edits or missing segments were identified, so these "Cutting Copies" were 'uncut'!]
	*But it '''is''' entirely possible that the films '''were''' returns from overseas (from [[Singapore]], along with [[Fury from the Deep]]?) and had been placed into new cans with blank spare "Cutting Copy" labels ''after'' they had been returned to the BBC; the handwritten text on the label reflects the status of the films after their return (i.e. Enterprises mistakenly thought there were two halves of each episode, hence the A + B notations, but since the durations and lengths of footage are correct for uncut prints, each was clearly only on one reel but labelled as if there ought to be two).		*But it '''is''' entirely possible that the films '''were''' returns from overseas (from [[Singapore]], along with [[Fury from the Deep]]?) and had been placed into new cans with blank spare "Cutting Copy" labels ''after'' they had been returned to the BBC; the handwritten text on the label reflects the status of the films after their return (i.e. Enterprises mistakenly thought there were two halves of each episode, hence the A + B notations, but since the durations and lengths of footage are correct for uncut prints, each was clearly only on one reel but labelled as if there ought to be two).
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		+	==Reconstruction==
		+	*The two missing episodes were animated, and the story was released on DVD in '''2013'''.
		+	*From '''December 2019''', the reconstruction was available on UK [[BritBox]].

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-*In '''May 1968''', a set of audition prints of this serial (it should be pointed out that it may have been just ''one'' episode) was sent to ZDF in [[Germany]], but the offer of the series was given a unanimous thumbs down and "rejected" -- it would seems on account of the poor production values.
+*In '''May 1968''', a set of audition prints of this serial (it should be pointed out that it may have been just ''one'' episode) was sent to ZDF in [[Germany]], but the offer of the series was given a unanimous thumbs down and "rejected" -- on account, it would seems, of the poor production values.
 *[[Hong Kong]] presumably sent its films to [[Singapore]] soon after transmission, as that was the fate of the RTV prints of [[The Enemy of the World]] and [[The Web of Fear]].
 * The [[New Zealand]] censors viewed the films in '''October and November 1970''', but awarded the serial with a "Y" classification. The serial did not screen. Significantly, [[Nigeria]] did not screen this story either - was there a connection? Did / could Nigeria only buy the same serials that the NZBC had? Judging from the sales information that is available, that does indeed appear to have been the case.

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-*In '''May 1968''', a set of audition prints of this serial (it should be pointed out that it may have been just '''one'' episode) was sent to ZDF in [[Germany]], but the offer of the series was given a unanimous thumbs down and "rejected" -- it would seems on account of the poor production values.
+*In '''May 1968''', a set of audition prints of this serial (it should be pointed out that it may have been just ''one'' episode) was sent to ZDF in [[Germany]], but the offer of the series was given a unanimous thumbs down and "rejected" -- it would seems on account of the poor production values.
 *[[Hong Kong]] presumably sent its films to [[Singapore]] soon after transmission, as that was the fate of the RTV prints of [[The Enemy of the World]] and [[The Web of Fear]].
 * The [[New Zealand]] censors viewed the films in '''October and November 1970''', but awarded the serial with a "Y" classification. The serial did not screen. Significantly, [[Nigeria]] did not screen this story either - was there a connection? Did / could Nigeria only buy the same serials that the NZBC had? Judging from the sales information that is available, that does indeed appear to have been the case.

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-*In '''May 1968''', a set of audition prints of this serial was sent to ZDF in [[Germany]], but the offer of the series was given a unanimous thumbs down and "rejected".
+*In '''May 1968''', a set of audition prints of this serial (it should be pointed out that it may have been just '''one'' episode) was sent to ZDF in [[Germany]], but the offer of the series was given a unanimous thumbs down and "rejected" -- it would seems on account of the poor production values.
 *[[Hong Kong]] presumably sent its films to [[Singapore]] soon after transmission, as that was the fate of the RTV prints of [[The Enemy of the World]] and [[The Web of Fear]].
 * The [[New Zealand]] censors viewed the films in '''October and November 1970''', but awarded the serial with a "Y" classification. The serial did not screen. Significantly, [[Nigeria]] did not screen this story either - was there a connection? Did / could Nigeria only buy the same serials that the NZBC had? Judging from the sales information that is available, that does indeed appear to have been the case.

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 ** It's likely that "repair" edits were not required to be made to episodes two and three, which is why further "Cutting Copy" prints were not found with the others.
 **Until such time that a direct comparison between the film prints and an off-air audio recording can be done, it is currently unknown whether any footage is missing from these film prints. (It is known that the original telerecording of [[The Keys of Marinus]] part two was edited in this way prior to any overseas copies being made, a fact that was not realised until a comparison was made with an off-air audio recording.) [''Update'': During the mastering and restoration work for the DVD release of this story, no edits or missing segments were identified, so these "Cutting Copies" were 'uncut'!]
-*But it '''is''' entirely possible that the films '''were''' returns from overseas (from [[Singapore]], along with [[Fury from the Deep]]?) and were placed into new cans with blank spare "Cutting Copy" labels put on them; the handwritten text on the label reflects the status of the films after their return (i.e. Enterprises mistakenly thought there were two halves of each episode, hence the A + B notations, but since the durations and lengths of footage are correct for uncut prints, each was clearly only on one reel but labelled as if there ought to be two).
+*But it '''is''' entirely possible that the films '''were''' returns from overseas (from [[Singapore]], along with [[Fury from the Deep]]?) and had been placed into new cans with blank spare "Cutting Copy" labels ''after'' they had been returned to the BBC; the handwritten text on the label reflects the status of the films after their return (i.e. Enterprises mistakenly thought there were two halves of each episode, hence the A + B notations, but since the durations and lengths of footage are correct for uncut prints, each was clearly only on one reel but labelled as if there ought to be two).

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 '''FILM CANS'''
-* Parts 1,4,5,6 of the serial were recovered from BBC Enterprises in 1988. The exact origin of these "Cutting Copy" prints is unclear. But based on the style of and text layout on the labels (see [[The Moonbase]] and [[The Web of Fear]] for comparison) we can probably rule out these being returned from any of the countries in Australasia. (See also [[Fury from the Deep]].)
+* Parts 1,4,5,6 of the serial were recovered from BBC Enterprises in 1988; the labels on the cans said "Cutting Copies". The exact origin of these "Cutting Copy" prints is unclear. But based on the style of and text layout on the labels (see [[The Moonbase]] and [[The Web of Fear]] for comparison) we can probably rule out these being returned from any of the countries in Australasia. (See also [[Fury from the Deep]].)
 *One of the cans was marked as being "EPI TWO" on its label, and yet all the other information written on it - such as the BBC Enterprises code, the episode duration and the film's length in feet - are those for part ONE - which was the episode that was found to be inside the can. In other words, it's not a case of it being episode one inside episode two's can, but episode one's can having the words "EPI TWO" written on its label in error.
 ** A popular thought is that the "Cutting Copies" were struck in order to remove or repair any potential faults in the telerecordings: the original video tapes may have had off-lock, drop-out or other artefacts in them which were transferred onto the film during the telerecording process. It's even possible that part six was there to have removed from it the "Next Week" trailer for the subsequent serial that was played at the conclusion of the episode. Any such faults could then be removed from the telerecording negatives prior to any positives being struck.