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 If the series did broadcast in colour, then it would be from PAL video tapes. (Since [[Spearhead from Space]] was made on 16mm colour film, it may have been supplied in that same format.)
 As noted above, since the English-only channel did not launch until the mid-1980s, '''Doctor Who''' probably aired in English but with [[Arabic]] narration or subtitles.
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 If Qatar aired [[Spearhead from Space]] ''before'' [[Lebanon]] and [[Saudi Arabia]] and from film, the prints could have come from [[Gibraltar]]. If the serial aired later than 1977 and was on film, then [[Saudi Arabia]] would be the source.
-If it was on tape, then [[United Arab Emirates]] is the likely source. (Note: [[Spearhead from Space]] aired ''twice'' in the UAE: it first aired in Dubai in mid-1975, then again in Abu Dhabi in late 1976.)
+If it was on tape, then [[United Arab Emirates]] is the likely source. (Note: [[Spearhead from Space]] aired twice in the UAE: it first aired in Dubai in mid-1975, then again in Abu Dhabi in late 1976.)
 As for the other two serials, depending on the format (film or tape) and when they aired, there are several different sources: if they aired in 1977 and were on film, they may have been supplied from [[Gibraltar]], but if they aired after 1977, then [[Saudi Arabia]] is the likely source.
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 Although BBC paperwork gives a sales date of mid-'''1977''', it appears that the episodes may have aired more than a year later. We have been reliably informed by a viewer who lived in [[Saudi Arabia]] between '''August 1978 and December 1979''' that because they could receive broadcasts from nearby Qatar, they caught some of the QTS broadcasts of '''Doctor Who''' during that period.
-Our viewer recalls that the series aired on Fridays in the late afternoon, and was in black and white. (We should point out that the colour signal may have been very weak, and only appeared to be black and white. Or the viewer was watching on a black and white set.)
+Our viewer recalls that the series aired on Fridays in the late afternoon, and was in black and white. (We should point out that the colour signal may have been very weak, and only appeared to be black and white. Or the viewer was watching on a black and white set. Or as noted above, only [[Spearhead from Space]] was in b/w.))
 From this information, '''Doctor Who''' aired on Qatar TV at some point during the 16 month window spanning late 1978 to late 1979, one or two years after the programme had actually been "sold" to the station. This delay may have been caused by a supply issue: [[Saudi Arabia]] aired the same three Pertwee stories at some point during 1977 and 1978, and Qatar may simply have had to wait until after broadcast there.

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 If Qatar aired [[Spearhead from Space]] ''before'' [[Lebanon]] and [[Saudi Arabia]] and from film, the prints could have come from [[Gibraltar]]. If the serial aired later than 1977 and was on film, then [[Saudi Arabia]] would be the source.
-If it was on tape, then [[United Arab Emirates]] is the likely source.
+If it was on tape, then [[United Arab Emirates]] is the likely source. (Note: [[Spearhead from Space]] aired ''twice'' in the UAE: it first aired in Dubai in mid-1975, then again in Abu Dhabi in late 1976.)
 As for the other two serials, depending on the format (film or tape) and when they aired, there are several different sources: if they aired in 1977 and were on film, they may have been supplied from [[Gibraltar]], but if they aired after 1977, then [[Saudi Arabia]] is the likely source.

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 ==Television Stations / Channels==
-Qatar was one of the last countries in the Persian Gulf area to launch a local television service.
+'''[[Wikipedia:Qatar Television|Qatar Television Service]]''' was a government-owned commercial broadcaster, operating on two channels, '''9, 11''', both being exclusively [[Arabic]]. (An English-only service, '''Channel 37''' was not launched until the mid-1980s.)
 '''Doctor Who''' therefore probably screened with [[Arabic]] narration or subtitles.
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 Although QTS didn't commence its own colour transmissions until 1974, those with PAL colour sets could receive transmissions from nearby [[Bahrain]], which had been transmitting in PAL colour since 1973.
-PAL television receivers in [[United Arab Emirates]], and [[Saudi Arabia]] could also receive transmissions from Qatar.
+PAL television receivers in [[United Arab Emirates]], and [[Saudi Arabia]] could also receive transmissions from Qatar, and depending on weather conditions, vice versa.
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-Based on an eye witness account (see below), although QTS was a colour broadcaster, '''Doctor Who''' aired in black and white, in which case the serials were supplied as 16mm black and white film prints.
+According to the BBC sales paperwork, these three serials were sold in '''April and May 1977'''.
-If the series did broadcast on colour, then it would be from PAL video tapes.
+If the series did broadcast in colour, then it would be from PAL video tapes. (Since [[Spearhead from Space]] was made on 16mm colour film, it may have been supplied in that same format.)
 As noted above, since the English-only channel did not launch until the mid-1980s, '''Doctor Who''' probably aired in English but with [[Arabic]] narration or subtitles.
-====Origin of the Prints?====
+====Origin of the Prints / Tapes?====
-The previous Arabic country to air black and white film copies of the same three Jon Pertwee serials was [[Saudi Arabia]], in which case Qatar's prints would likely to have been supplied from there.
+If Qatar aired [[Spearhead from Space]] ''before'' [[Lebanon]] and [[Saudi Arabia]] and from film, the prints could have come from [[Gibraltar]]. If the serial aired later than 1977 and was on film, then [[Saudi Arabia]] would be the source.
-If the series aired in colour, the tapes could have been supplied from the [[United Arab Emirates]].
+As for the other two serials, depending on the format (film or tape) and when they aired, there are several different sources: if they aired in 1977 and were on film, they may have been supplied from [[Gibraltar]], but if they aired after 1977, then [[Saudi Arabia]] is the likely source.
-[[File:Qatar 1.JPG|thumb|right|250px|Generic listings for Qatar TV, 1977 (two years too early…)]]
+If they were on tape, then [[United Arab Emirates]] and [[Brunei]] are the likely sources.
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 ===[[Jon Pertwee stories|JON PERTWEE]]===
 We have been unable to find any identifiable '''Doctor Who''' airdates for Qatar.
-We have been reliably informed by a viewer who lived in Saudi Arabia between '''August 1978 and December 1979''' that because they could receive broadcasts from nearby Qatar, they caught some of the QTS broadcasts of '''Doctor Who''' during that period.
+Although BBC paperwork gives a sales date of mid-'''1977''', it appears that the episodes may have aired more than a year later. We have been reliably informed by a viewer who lived in [[Saudi Arabia]] between '''August 1978 and December 1979''' that because they could receive broadcasts from nearby Qatar, they caught some of the QTS broadcasts of '''Doctor Who''' during that period.
-Our viewer recalls that the series aired on Fridays in the late afternoon, and was in black and white. (We should point out that the colour signal may have been very weak, and only appeared to be black and white.)
+Our viewer recalls that the series aired on Fridays in the late afternoon, and was in black and white. (We should point out that the colour signal may have been very weak, and only appeared to be black and white. Or the viewer was watching on a black and white set.)
-'''Doctor Who''' therefore aired in Qatar TV at some point during the 16 month window spanning late 1978 to late 1979, some two years after the programme had actually been "sold" to the station. (There may have been supply issues: both [[Saudi Arabia]] and [[Lebanon]] aired Pertwee stories in 1977, and Qatar may simply have had to wait for the films to show up...)
+From this information, '''Doctor Who''' aired on Qatar TV at some point during the 16 month window spanning late 1978 to late 1979, one or two years after the programme had actually been "sold" to the station. This delay may have been caused by a supply issue: [[Saudi Arabia]] aired the same three Pertwee stories at some point during 1977 and 1978, and Qatar may simply have had to wait until after broadcast there.
 ====Fate of the Prints?====
-If it was film, since these appear to have been the last ever broadcasts of these black and white Pertwees in the [[:Category:Middle East|Middle East]], the films would have been destroyed or returned to the BBC.
+[[Spearhead from Space]] may have been sent to [[Swaziland]].
 ==TV listings==
-Despite our having accessed and checked several Persian Gulf newspapers from 1976 onwards, there were no identifiable listings for '''Doctor Who''' on the '''Qatar Television Service''' at all.
+Despite having accessed and checked several Persian Gulf newspapers from 1976 onwards, we couldn't find any identifiable listings for '''Doctor Who''' on the '''Qatar Television Service'''.
-As can be seen in this Channel 9 & 11 listing from the [[United Arab Emirates]]'s ''Emirates Daily News'' from late 1977, Thursday and Friday both had an unnamed '''"Children's Series"''' at 3.45pm, while Thursday had an unidentified '''"Children's Program"''' at 7.05pm, and Friday had a '''"Foreign Series"''' at 9.30pm.
+As can be seen from this Channel 9 & 11 listing in the [[United Arab Emirates]]'s ''Emirates Daily News'' from late 1977 (above), Thursday and Friday both had a generic '''"Children's Series"''' at 3.45pm, while Thursday had an unidentified '''"Children's Program"''' at 7.05pm, and Friday had a '''"Foreign Series"''' at 9.30pm.
-Although this listing is in itself at least a year too early of when '''Doctor Who''' aired in Qatar, it is likely that any TV billings from 1978 and 1979 would also have the same generic "Childrens' Series" listings instead of naming '''Doctor Who''' by title.
+Although this listing is at least a year too early for when our eye-witness said '''Doctor Who''' aired in Qatar, it is likely that any TV billings from the actual dates that the series did screen would also have the same generic "Children's Series" listings instead of naming '''Doctor Who''' by title.

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 |'''[[WRTH|TV Sets]]'''||1977|| 34,000
 |-
-|'''Language/s'''||[[Arabic]]||Subtitled in English
+|'''Language/s'''||[[Arabic]]||Subtitled in English, or English with Arabic subtitles or narration
 |-
 |}
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 '''Qatar Television Service''' was a government-owned commercial broadcaster, operating two channels: '''9, 11''', both being exclusively [[Arabic]]. (An English-only service, '''Channel 37''' was not launched until the mid-1980s.)
-'''Doctor Who''' therefore screened in [[Arabic]].
+'''Doctor Who''' therefore probably screened with [[Arabic]] narration or subtitles.
 Although QTS didn't commence its own colour transmissions until 1974, those with PAL colour sets could receive transmissions from nearby [[Bahrain]], which had been transmitting in PAL colour since 1973.
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 ==Language/s==
-The principal language of Qatar is [[Arabic]], with English a secondary common language. Television programming with Arabic dialogue were often subtitled with English; '''Doctor Who''' was broadcast in this dual format.
+The principal language of Qatar is [[Arabic]], with English a secondary common language. Television programming with [[Arabic]] dialogue was often subtitled with English, while English programmes had [[Arabic]] narration or subtitles. '''Doctor Who''' was probably broadcast in a dual language format.
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 If the series did broadcast on colour, then it would be from PAL video tapes.
-As noted above, since the English-only channel did not launch until the mid-1980s, '''Doctor Who''' almost certainly aired in [[Arabic]] but with English subtitles.
+As noted above, since the English-only channel did not launch until the mid-1980s, '''Doctor Who''' probably aired in English but with [[Arabic]] narration or subtitles.
 ====Origin of the Prints?====
-The previous Arabic country to air black and white film copies of the same three Jon Pertwee serials dubbed into Arabic was [[Saudi Arabia]], in which case Qatar's prints would likely to have been supplied from there.
+The previous Arabic country to air black and white film copies of the same three Jon Pertwee serials was [[Saudi Arabia]], in which case Qatar's prints would likely to have been supplied from there.
 If the series aired in colour, the tapes could have been supplied from the [[United Arab Emirates]].

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 Despite our having accessed and checked several Persian Gulf newspapers from 1976 onwards, there were no identifiable listings for '''Doctor Who''' on the '''Qatar Television Service''' at all.
-As can be seen in this Channel 9 & 11 listing from the [[United Arab Emirates]]'s ''Emirates Daily News'' from late 1977, Thursday had an unidentified '''"Children's Program"''' at 7.05pm, while Friday had an unnamed '''"Children's Series"''' at 3.45pm and a '''"Foreign Series"''' at 9.30pm.
+As can be seen in this Channel 9 & 11 listing from the [[United Arab Emirates]]'s ''Emirates Daily News'' from late 1977, Thursday and Friday both had an unnamed '''"Children's Series"''' at 3.45pm, while Thursday had an unidentified '''"Children's Program"''' at 7.05pm, and Friday had a '''"Foreign Series"''' at 9.30pm.
 Although this listing is in itself at least a year too early of when '''Doctor Who''' aired in Qatar, it is likely that any TV billings from 1978 and 1979 would also have the same generic "Childrens' Series" listings instead of naming '''Doctor Who''' by title.

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 {| {{small-table}}
 |-
-|'''Country Number (?)'''||1977||[[Selling Doctor Who|SECOND WAVE]]
+|'''Country Number (?)'''||1978?||[[Selling Doctor Who|SECOND WAVE]]
 |-
-|'''Region'''||[[:Category:Middle East| Middle East]]||
+|'''Region'''||[[:Category:Middle East|Middle East]]||
 |-
 |'''Television commenced'''||15 August 1970||
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 |'''[[WRTH|TV Sets]]'''||1977|| 34,000
 |-
-|'''Language/s'''||[[Arabic]]||
+|'''Language/s'''||[[Arabic]]||Subtitled in English
 |-
 |}
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 ==Television Stations / Channels==
-Station: '''Qatar Television Service''', a government-owned commercial broadcaster. This is the only broadcaster, but it operates two channels: '''9, 11''', which is exclusively [[Arabic]]. (An English-only service, '''Channel 37''' was not launched until the mid-1980s.)
+Qatar was one of the last countries in the Persian Gulf area to launch a local television service.
 '''Doctor Who''' therefore screened in [[Arabic]].
-Although QTS didn't commence its own colour transmissions until 1974, those with colour sets could receive transmissions from nearby [[Bahrain]], which had been transmitting in colour since 1973.
+Although QTS didn't commence its own colour transmissions until 1974, those with PAL colour sets could receive transmissions from nearby [[Bahrain]], which had been transmitting in PAL colour since 1973.
-Television receivers in [[United Arab Emirates]], and [[Saudi Arabia]] could also receive transmissions from Qatar.
+PAL television receivers in [[United Arab Emirates]], and [[Saudi Arabia]] could also receive transmissions from Qatar.
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 {{Arabic}}
-Qatar was we think the '''eighth''' country in the Middle East region to buy '''Doctor Who'''. It was one of the last countries in the Persian Gulf area to launch a local television service.
+Qatar was we think the '''eighth''' country in the Middle East region to buy '''Doctor Who'''.
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 '''The Eighties''' [http://www.shillpages.com/howe/b-dw80s.htm - THE LOST CHAPTERS] records a sale of '''"(3)"''' stories by 10 February 1987.
-In '''DWM''', Qatar is identified in only '''two''' story Archives: {{AAA}} and {{PPP}}, with a sale date given as '''1977'''.
+In '''DWM''', Qatar is identified in only '''two''' story Archives: {{AAA}} and {{PPP}}, with a sales date given as '''1977'''.
 According to other BBC documents, the third story was [[Day of the Daleks]].
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 |}
-The programme would have been supplied as PAL colour video tapes.
+Based on an eye witness account (see below), although QTS was a colour broadcaster, '''Doctor Who''' aired in black and white, in which case the serials were supplied as 16mm black and white film prints.
-Since the English-only channel did not launch until the mid-1980s, '''Doctor Who''' almost certainly aired in [[Arabic]].
+As noted above, since the English-only channel did not launch until the mid-1980s, '''Doctor Who''' almost certainly aired in [[Arabic]] but with English subtitles.
-====Origin of the tapes?====
+====Origin of the Prints?====
-Qatar, like the other Persian Gulf states – [[United Arab Emirates]], [[Bahrain]] and [[Saudi Arabia]] (and [[Kuwait]]?) - all screened the same episodes of '''Doctor Who''' (Pertwees and Bakers) around the same time, so it is expected that there was lots of tape exchanges taking place between these countries.
+The previous Arabic country to air black and white film copies of the same three Jon Pertwee serials dubbed into Arabic was [[Saudi Arabia]], in which case  Qatar's prints would likely to have been supplied from there.
-[[File:Qatar 1.JPG|thumb|right|250px|Generic listings for Qatar TV, 1977]]
+[[File:Qatar 1.JPG|thumb|right|250px|Generic listings for Qatar TV, 1977 (two years too early…)]]
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 ===[[Jon Pertwee stories|JON PERTWEE]]===
-We have been unable to find any identifiable '''Doctor Who''' airdates for Qatar. The sales dates for the series are recorded as 1977, so the twelve episodes would have aired over a three month period during that year, or into 1978.
+We have been unable to find any identifiable '''Doctor Who''' airdates for Qatar.
 ==TV listings==
-Despite our having accessed and checked several Persian Gulf newspapers from 1976 onwards, there was no sign of '''Doctor Who''' in any of the listings for the '''Qatar Television Service'''.
+Despite our having accessed and checked several Persian Gulf newspapers from 1976 onwards, there were no identifiable listings for '''Doctor Who''' on the '''Qatar Television Service''' at all.
-As can be seen in this Channel 9 & 11 listing from the [[United Arab Emirates]]'s ''Emirates Daily News'' in late 1977, there was an unnamed '''"Children's Series"''' at 3.45pm and something called '''"The Daily Dish'''" that ran from 4.05 to 6.45pm on both days, while Thursday had another unidentified '''"Children's Program"''' at 7.05pm, and Friday had a '''"Foreign Series"''' at 9.30pm. Any one of these could have been '''Doctor Who'''.
+Although this listing is in itself at least a year too early of when '''Doctor Who''' aired in Qatar, it is likely that any TV billings from 1978 and 1979 would also have the same generic "Childrens' Series" listings instead of naming '''Doctor Who''' by title.

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−	=='''DOCTOR WHO ~~('''ادكتورهو''')~~ IN QATAR'''==	+	=='''DOCTOR WHO IN QATAR'''==
		+	{{Arabic}}

	Qatar was we think the '''eighth''' country in the Middle East region to buy '''Doctor Who'''. It was one of the last countries in the Persian Gulf area to launch a local television service.		Qatar was we think the '''eighth''' country in the Middle East region to buy '''Doctor Who'''. It was one of the last countries in the Persian Gulf area to launch a local television service.

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-==DOCTOR WHO ('''ادكتورهو''') IN QATAR==
+=='''DOCTOR WHO ('''ادكتورهو''') IN QATAR'''==
 Qatar was we think the '''eighth''' country in the Middle East region to buy '''Doctor Who'''. It was one of the last countries in the Persian Gulf area to launch a local television service.
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 According to other BBC documents, the third story was [[Day of the Daleks]].
 ==Stories bought and broadcast==
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 ====Origin of the tapes?====
-Qatar, like the other Persian Gulf states – [[United Arab Emirates]], [[Bahrain]] and [[Saudi Arabia]] (and [[Kuwait]]?) - all screened the same episodes of '''Doctor Who''' (Pertwees and Bakers) around the same time, so it is expected that there was lots of tape exchanges taking place between countries.
+Qatar, like the other Persian Gulf states – [[United Arab Emirates]], [[Bahrain]] and [[Saudi Arabia]] (and [[Kuwait]]?) - all screened the same episodes of '''Doctor Who''' (Pertwees and Bakers) around the same time, so it is expected that there was lots of tape exchanges taking place between these countries.
 [[File:Qatar 1.JPG|thumb|right|250px|Generic listings for Qatar TV, 1977]]
 ==Transmission==
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 ===[[Jon Pertwee stories|JON PERTWEE]]===
-We have been unable to find any direct '''Doctor Who''' airdates for Qatar. The sales dates for the series are recorded as 1977, so the twelve episodes would have aired over a three month period during that year, or into 1978.
+We have been unable to find any identifiable '''Doctor Who''' airdates for Qatar. The sales dates for the series are recorded as 1977, so the twelve episodes would have aired over a three month period during that year, or into 1978.
 ==TV listings==
-Despite having accessed and checked several Persian Gulf newspapers from 1976 onwards, there was no sign of '''Doctor Who''' in any of the listings for the '''Qatar Television Service'''.
+Despite our having accessed and checked several Persian Gulf newspapers from 1976 onwards, there was no sign of '''Doctor Who''' in any of the listings for the '''Qatar Television Service'''.
-As can be seen in this Channel 9 & 11 listing from the [[United Arab Emirates]]'s ''Emirates Daily News'' in late 1977, there was a '''"Children's Series"''' at 3.45pm and something called '''"The Daily Dish'''" that ran from 4.05 to 6.45pm on both days, while Thursday had another unidentified '''"Children's Program"''' at 7.05pm, and Friday had a '''"Foreign Series"''' at 9.30pm. Anyone of these could have been '''Doctor Who'''.
+As can be seen in this Channel 9 & 11 listing from the [[United Arab Emirates]]'s ''Emirates Daily News'' in late 1977, there was an unnamed '''"Children's Series"''' at 3.45pm and something called '''"The Daily Dish'''" that ran from 4.05 to 6.45pm on both days, while Thursday had another unidentified '''"Children's Program"''' at 7.05pm, and Friday had a '''"Foreign Series"''' at 9.30pm. Any one of these could have been '''Doctor Who'''.